March 1, 2019 at 7:01 pm #6831
What’s about Russian layout? Like this one on Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro.
I understand that it’s not feasible to manufacture too many different layouts in the first batch.
March 1, 2019 at 7:40 pm #6840
- Will it be possible to create and edit key mapping? I mean setting symbols that correspond to key press, key with Shift, key with Ctrl, key with Ctrl and Shift.
- Will a list of available symbols (for example, with diacritics) appear on screen after long key press?
- Will it be possible to switch between languages with buttons (Space, Ctrl + Shift or others)?
Signed up with the hopes of different layouts(Swedish) at release. If not I have to concider cancel/park my order or go with what they have.March 2, 2019 at 12:39 am #6909
YampA, I have not heard any confirmation nor denial of the possibility for user-editing the key maps.
But I certainly will push all I can for us to get that possibility. :-)
To me it does not need to be with a fancy user friendly UI to do it. Practically any reasonably described format will do for me (but I’m a nerd).
As long as there is a way where we can share the layouts, so the less tech savvy users can benefit from what the nerd makes, AND they can easily reset it to default, if the layout they apply proves useless to them. The layout files should be pure passive keymaps, so there will be no risk of any idiot distributing malicious files.March 2, 2019 at 1:11 am #6922
Editing keymaps is a must for me. Used Blackberry Priv and Keyone, and living with Ö/Ä behind shift was ok, and didn’t really even think about it after a while.
Preordered but need to be sure that I can bind Ö/Ä behind some easy to use combo before I will finish the payment.March 2, 2019 at 2:49 am #6940
JjyKs, the BB keyboard software have a couple of clever tricks up it sleeves that makes it a bliss to use more than one language. I even have it using English AND Danish at the same time, and it auto detects what language I’m typing, and adjusts the spell-checking and word suggestions, so we often do not even need to request the national letters.
If the techniques are not bound by patents I certainly hope the Pro¹ will be ‘inspired’.March 2, 2019 at 11:55 am #7039
EskeRahn, it would be great if layouts are editable with an application. On my Xperia Pro it was necessary to make changes in two XML files in /system/usr/keyboard-config/ (with root, of course). One maps keys to symbols (two keys were swapped in stock layout), another defines alternative symbols that appear on long key press.March 2, 2019 at 2:01 pm #7093
YampA, As I said I will do my best to push for that, and hopefully it can be done without rooting needed, without violating any google-rules (I haven’t got a clue on what rules there are)March 4, 2019 at 8:32 am #7446
Well I know it sounds strange to type “Umlauts” with the US-International.
And believe me, while maybe not as common as in Finish, Umlauts are also used a lot in German and they are at nearly as common in Swiss-German than in Finish!
And yes I use the US-International Keyboard for Swiss-German, German and English. Why? Because it is way more comfortable to use vim as it was intended. It may sound strange, and at the beginning it is strange, but after a while it is quite easy to type that.
I mean every capital letter you type also requires yo to press two buttons together, it is not different than that.
That said of course this may not be the perfect solution for you, BUT it allows to use the keyboard with a lot of languages. With specialized layouts you will need a lot of layouts…March 5, 2019 at 8:22 pm #7763
+1 for Cyrillic layout.
IMPORTANT!!! Different languages – different colors!
That was great fault of Nokia e7 to have English and Russian letters both in white colour.March 8, 2019 at 3:50 pm #8278
One change that would be awesome on this keyboard is an alt key on both sides.
That way if there is a series of numbers or characters to type, you could just hold the right side alt for left side numbers/characters and hold left side alt for right side numbers and characters.
I type a lot on a BlackBerry Priv keyboard currently and it gets a little wacky sometimes having to hit two buttons for every number that is on the left side of the keyboard with the alt whereas all the numbers/characters on the right side flow better cause I can alt with left thumb and select with the right.
Anyway this looks pretty much like a homerun with all the features I’ve wanted in a slider for a long time and nobody ever seems to tick off all the marks. I am looking forward to purchasing. Hopefully battery life holds and we see nicer case selections by launch.March 8, 2019 at 3:58 pm #8280
Edit to last post: Is that a voice command button on both sides? If it is perhaps the one on the right could be an Alt key or at least have the option for end user to map the keys for personalization and I could just do that.March 8, 2019 at 4:50 pm #8288
+1 EskeRahn layout and vote for model with Nordic/Finnish keyboard with ä, ö and å
* Also long press a and o providing ä and ö would be good enough for me to pre-order first model (BUT I’d also buy Nordic model soonest it comes available)
* Sailfish support would be great but I’d be ok to wait for thatMarch 8, 2019 at 9:15 pm #8306
For me this current keyboard layout is deal breaker. I spend a moment for another Finnish/Nordic layout, there could be Lenovo kind of different color for Æ and Ø for Noway and Denmark on keys with Ö and Ä. I edited layout only thinking Finnish layout.
At this moment I’am Cosmo Communicator backer (from early December already). One thing what is better on Cosmo is size of keys, but for Finnish layout, Cosmo is missing one row of keys, wich exist on Pro1. On Pro1 Ä and Ö has own key, when on Cosmo, they are implemented on same key. Also ‘, *, ~, – and _. have own key, wich is highly important for me when thinking about writing technical emails on the go.
Hopefully Pro1 will get Nordic keyboard layout at some point. And also I can join for you guys who are already preordered Pro1. At this point I spread the word from both devices for my friends and colleagues. That way both of these devices get more awareness and more probable backer/buyers/user might know these devices.March 9, 2019 at 11:20 am #8383
IMHO, since the phone is going to be rootable, keyboard layout is not a problem at all. If one has root access, he can easily change every single key mapping in *.kl/*.kcm files. I did it on every rootable QWERTY Android device I had. Unfortunately it cannot be done on those f*c*ing BlackBerries, I own now.March 9, 2019 at 1:21 pm #8391
spam71 that’s a price of Save android by BlackBerry. But I’m sad because of that too. In my BlackBerry Priv keyboard layout is in german qwertz and I can’t change the key map :/
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