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  • #12464
    raphaelcno
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    It looks nice :-)
    I would just suggest to move the dash/minus sign a little higher on the key, otherwise it looks like the underscore sign:

    QWERTZ-201904092-2019-04-10_RCa

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    #12467
    EskeRahn
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    This is the least bad I can do to make something that looks somewhat like a yellow arrow key
    [b][color=#FAD954][i]†[/i][/color][/b]

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    #12484
    jason
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    What is “Strg”?

    #12499
    Testdevice
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    What is “Strg”?

    The keyboard button in German for Ctrl

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    #12502
    jason
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    What is “Strg”?

    The keyboard button in German for Ctrl

    My German is limited I am afraid! My classes obviously didn’t go that far :D

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    #12511
    EskeRahn
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    My German is limited I am afraid! My classes obviously didn’t go that far :D

    *LOL* Same here we both lack “German abbreviations I”.
    My first thought was “Strange” *LOL*
    (it stands for “Steuerung” though – etymologically same word as English “steering”)

    #12532
    Wheeljack
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    I’ve heard enough Germans falsely call it “String” … so no worries ;)

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    #12587
    Waxberry
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    QWERTZ-201904092-1

    Made the positioning change of “-” sign

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    #12598
    Jacob_S
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    It is really cool tro see how you’re implementing more and more design wishes =)
    As someone already pointed out: It would still be nice if there was a downward arrow instead of Caps.

    IMG_20190411_1912465

    And as also someone said before: If the SYM button stays it would look better if the print was reading Sym instead of the all caps version.

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    #12604
    EskeRahn
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    And as also someone said before: If the SYM button stays it would look better if the print was reading Sym instead of the all caps version.

    Agree on that one, it just looks odd in my eyes, also on the QWERTY.

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    #12606
    Waxberry
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    How about this suggestion? What’s your opinions?

    Regarding Caps using the pointing down arrow… Is that a common one on German language / keyboard?

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    #12608
    alex.ruediger
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    How about this suggestion? What’s your opinions?

    This guy’s change makes no sense to me. He moved # to FN+3 and removed § for no reason. This deviates from QWERTZ and I don’t see why you would do that, especially removing a symbol.

    Regarding Caps using the pointing down arrow… Is that a common one on German language / keyboard?

    I brought it up anyways, but yeah, I’d say this is fairly common. I went browsing keyboards to confirm my experience and the majority has something like that, some a diffferent kind of arrow and a few say “Caps” or even “Capslk”. This varies between brands and even within the same brand sometimes.
    So as I said it’s not a dealbreaker but perhaps worth considering.
    The German norm DIN 2137 describing German QWERTZ appears to use the downwards arrow as it’s most common, but I can’t confirm that since you can’t read that without buying it.

    But I’m repeating myself. This is nitpicking territory imo. Current version is already very good.

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    #12616
    EskeRahn
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    Regarding Caps using the pointing down arrow… Is that a common one on German language / keyboard?

    I think there are many variants, not limited to German
    Here is another one
    The aPple guys seem to like this variant

    The REASON for the at first odd arrow down stems back from the time of typewriters, before the up arrow was used for Shift, and Shift-Lock was a key that physically stayed down, and forced the whole set of arms to shift up, so we got the lower symbol of each hammer when hitting the roll, and thus had the upper case letters AND the symbols on the number keys active.
    See e.g. this
    (the shift lock was released pressing shift)

    ADD: And BTW this is also why the term “Shift” is used as it shifted the whole set of arms, and was held up while holding it pressing one of the shift-keys with a pinky.

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    #12670
    doktor.oswaldo
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    Made the positioning change of “-” sign

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    How about this suggestion? What’s your opinions?

    Regarding Caps using the pointing down arrow… Is that a common one on German language / keyboard?

    Capslock is also very common in German-based layouts. I as a Swiss am used to the capslock not the arrow. I would not bother with that and just go for capslock on all keyboards. But that is just my personal opinion.

    One question to the suggested Layout: Why is the order of the brackets like that: { [ ] } and not like thath { } [ ].
    It is not a big problem but seems rather special.

    #12686
    Testdevice
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    +1 for Arrow down instead “Caps”

    Btw, I personnally prefer SYM, ALT, STRG, ENT, ESC
    as all caps version :-)

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