March 8, 2019 at 3:10 pm #8275
I think the price of the PRO1 is too high compared to its specs
There are models with similar specs (processor, ram, rom, display) that costs half its price like Nubia Red Magic and OnePlus5T
I know that the implementation of hardware keyboard is expensive due to engineering and materials, but it seems too much, compared to RedMagic and OP5T
I think it needs:
– a lower price (500-549)
– or the same price with better specs (at least a 4000mh battery, a SD845, a removable battery, IR port, etc)
What do you think about it?March 8, 2019 at 4:18 pm #8282
In my book it is well worth the price. But I have been waiting for many years, so are perhaps more eager than you.March 8, 2019 at 4:19 pm #8284
Price seems fair to me considering this isn’t a major brand that will mass produce quantities large enough to keep the price down. Also, I just looked at the specs on the OnePlus 5T and there is no comparison really. No keyboard alone should be enough to keep out of a comparison but also little things like no stereo speakers which is a rarity, and no multi colored notification light which is like finding a unicorn these days. This doesn’t just have a keyboard. it’s got a sliding keyboard which is even more rare, landscape keyboard making it even rarer and 5 row qwerty with dedicated number row which is just unheard of nowadays. Can’t wait to get my hands on one.March 8, 2019 at 6:19 pm #8295
You can get phones with the same SoC for half the price. Yes.
Now try it the other way: Look for how much you can get a current phone-like device with a hardware keyboard. For non-sliders there are a few options, but those won’t let you get away much if any cheaper and may even sport slower hardware.
This is the price of niche hardware. I don’t doubt we all wouldn’t mind a lower price.
But there are many factors in this. Low volume, unknown demand, high development costs, just to name a few. Economy of scale makes it worse. They also need to profit a bit on this to stay afloat.March 8, 2019 at 9:57 pm #8311
For me also the price seems more than fair, companies like oneplus work with very small profit margins and sell huge volume, and they don’t have a keyboard. This is for people that really need the keyboard rather than best specs per dollar eh :). The shutter button is also something pretty rare that does add some value, these things are for me all more important than what SoC it runs etc although I’m really happy it ain’t mediatek. Some people are willing to throw over $1000 at a folding phone also while for me it just seems even worse than the normal ones that exist :D.March 9, 2019 at 12:31 am #8321
Some reviews mentioned that the BlackBerry KEY2 came out with a similar price tag with weaker hardware so in that regard the price seems fair.
650 USD seemed like a great deal when the announcement was made and I immediately opened the pre-order page and it was 650 EUR for me which is 12% more from where I’m standing(and even more for GB). I understand that sales tax and VAT are handled differently in different regions, but this has just pushed the price out of my instant buy range so I’ll probably wait a little more, even if I risk loosing the pre-order gifts.March 9, 2019 at 12:50 am #8326
It’s a niche phone so the price will be higher. What I don’t understand, is that the price is the same in different currencies ;)
I’m willing to pay extra for a Pro1/2 with some “minor” changes:
– 4.5″ to max 5″ NON-curved screen with small bezels;
– removable battery. I’m still using a Relay and I have a spare full one with me when I know there is no power source and I’ll use the phone much more than usual (weddings, funerals, courses :D). I wouldn’t mind if it’s a little bigger (3600-4000);
– dual sim + SD card simultaneously;
– IR port.March 9, 2019 at 1:16 am #8344
The USD price does not inculde the taxes while the prices in EUR and GPB do. The best deal would be to buy it from a US state where the taxes are low.March 9, 2019 at 4:48 am #8346
Available for pre-order now at $649 | £649 | €649 *
*plus shipping and sales tax for customers in the US.
Shipping and taxes are not included for the customers from US. Country is not the same with currency.
Also, if I’m from EU, the same taxation level (%) is applied if the price is in EUR or GBP.March 9, 2019 at 9:35 am #8362
+1 I’d also be willing to pay extra for a phone with the changes Val describes, those would be high up on the want-list when a pro2 is on the horizon :).March 9, 2019 at 9:54 am #8364
+1 to val and netman, I hope the pro¹ becomes a smashing success, so they will make a Pro², And hopefully there will be enough users to sustain both a Pro²- and Pro²+ of different sizes, but identical logical specs (Like SE in he old days). I for one would prefer a compact.March 9, 2019 at 10:21 am #8369
Yes, the pro1 being a smashing success is what all of us need so there is enough demand for more niceties like it :). For sure there has to be many more people like us who waited for this to come, it’s almost exactly the phone I’ve always dreamed would exist.March 9, 2019 at 10:22 am #8371
I think the line Please note that sales tax will be added for customers in the US on the pre-order page means that they will have to pay extra sales tax on top of the 650 USD price, while for people in the EU for example the VAT is already included in the 650 EUR price. Still not exactly the same price but it’s closer.
Edit.: just checked the pre-order page without actually sending the pre-order:
TOTAL €649.00 charged at a future date
(includes €108.17 VAT estimated for Hungary)
And as the pre-order page says:
Shipping costs to your location will be added to your order. And that applies to everyone.March 9, 2019 at 2:10 pm #8399
The VAT percentage in the pre-order page is the one in UK (20%), regardless of the currency. That the way it works.
The price should be the same in EUR and GBP, parity wise. At least, until the hard Brexit :DMarch 11, 2019 at 7:44 am #8560
To be honest, I wait for this phone since my N900 gave up on me.
Yes it isn’t my dream phone in every aspect, but if the keyboard has a nice feel to it, I am gonna buy it even if it is expensive. Other phones are way more expensive and you gonna use that keyboard all the time, while the faster processor in another phone will mostly idle.
I hope this phone will be a smashing success. I hope it sells so good, that every other company sees what stupid error jobs did by removing it.
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