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  • #19037
    EskeRahn
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    That sounds like you’re able to use it like the old Nokia tablets. That being said: how is call quality through stuff like WhatsApp? Have you tried that already?

    Nope, never used it.

    #19071
    MortisAngelus
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    Hello!

    July is here, and we are yet to receive any actual release date. Or have I just missed it? When can we expect the first US versions to start shipping, and how long are we ought to wait for other language versions after that? I kinda expect a Nordic version for November/December, but would be nice to get some in-house updates regarding this.

    Thank you!

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    #19074
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    July is here, and we are yet to receive any actual release date. Or have I just missed it?

    You did not miss it, we are all impatiently waiting for official info. What we know is that they changed “July 2019” to “Summer 2019” in the pre-order page text.

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    #19082
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    July is here, and we are yet to receive any actual release date. Or have I just missed it?

    You did not miss it, we are all impatiently waiting for official info. What we know is that they changed “July 2019” to “Summer 2019” in the pre-order page text.

    Thanks for the info! Nice to see that other than me are also impatient. :D I really hope they can get the phone out soon, because with the release of more and more budget phones from China, the price to performance for this phone is becoming increasingly more ridiculous.

    Yes – I am still prepared to support this niche product (I want physical qwerty back), but for example, I think a 1080p panel on a phone like this is to cheap out quite substantially, compared to my now 3 year old LG G6 with 1440p panel. The longer this release will take, the more “stupid” this package start to look. I mean… You can get China-phones with top-tier specs for 400 dollars. At 650 dollars, this phone should have top tier specs (or at least premium specs), even if it is a niche product. But again, I am okay with it for now. But much more delays and it won’t be that “okay”.

    Side note: Not sure it was the best idea to merge my post to this one; could have been more visible if more questions/inquiries are made. :P

    #19085
    doktor.oswaldo
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    I think a 1080p panel on a phone like this is to cheap out quite substantially, compared to my now 3 year old LG G6 with 1440p panel.

    It has a 2160 x 1080 (FHD+) panel not a 1080p. Okay it is a small difference in numbers but important for the form factor. Higher resolution also means higher power use, while adding not all to much more quality. To have a good panel is way more important than to have a higher resolutions on these small devices, the ppi is already high enough.

    I do not know if the panel is actually good, but i hope for a good brightness and a good black, than the resolution is more than enough

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    #19092
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    I think a 1080p panel on a phone like this is to cheap out quite substantially, compared to my now 3 year old LG G6 with 1440p panel.

    It has a 2160 x 1080 (FHD+) panel not a 1080p. Okay it is a small difference in numbers but important for the form factor. Higher resolution also means higher power use, while adding not all to much more quality. To have a good panel is way more important than to have a higher resolutions on these small devices, the ppi is already high enough.

    I do not know if the panel is actually good, but i hope for a good brightness and a good black, than the resolution is more than enough

    It’s AMOLED, so I think you will get what you want.

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    It really is time they did another blog post

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    #19101
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    I think a 1080p panel on a phone like this is to cheap out quite substantially, compared to my now 3 year old LG G6 with 1440p panel.

    It has a 2160 x 1080 (FHD+) panel not a 1080p. Okay it is a small difference in numbers but important for the form factor. Higher resolution also means higher power use, while adding not all to much more quality. To have a good panel is way more important than to have a higher resolutions on these small devices, the ppi is already high enough.

    I do not know if the panel is actually good, but i hope for a good brightness and a good black, than the resolution is more than enough

    I agree, that panel quality is more important. However, in 2019, there is no reason for compromising on either of them, especially at this price point. The display was just one example.

    Once you get used to working with a higher resolution it is difficult to go back; I picked up my old phone with 1920×1080 screen, and it does feel like the workspace is so limited compared to my LG. For apps with proper scaling this is not an issue, but e.g. I tried to take a screen shot of an e-mail from outlook app on both devices, and the lower screen resolution did indeed result in a much tighter-cut image. Can’t say I liked that. :P

    Also, yes, the panel is FHD+, but it is still 1080p (vertical resolution – says nothing about horizontal resolution).

    EDIT: Okay, apparently 1080p is strictly meant for 1920×1080 (FHD).. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Resolutions

    Why do they do this? How do you then define something that is wider than 1920 pixels in a proper way? It is odd, considering FullHD is usually defined by the horizontal resolution: FHD movies in 21.5:9 aspect ratio are 1920×864 pixels, but are still marketed as 1080p movies…. Darn industry standards….

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    #19103
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    I do not know if the panel is actually good, but i hope for a good brightness and a good black, than the resolution is more than enough

    See e.g TrustedReview on the Elephone U Pro with the same Boe display https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/elephone-u-pro

    Amazing 18:9 AMOLED display

    …by equipping the U Pro with a punchy, 5.99-inch AMOLED panel (protected by Gorilla Glass 5, no less), which looks incredible from any angle. With an aspect ratio of 18:9 it’s tall and thin – which is the trend these days – and has a minimal bezel.

    It even has lovely rounded corners, which tie in perfectly with the pebble-like shape of the bodywork – at least from a design perspective.

    ADD
    Just browsed through a number of reviews https://www.google.com/search?q=elephone+u+pro+review+display And the one thing they all seem to agree on is that the display is really good… :)

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    #19105
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    Also, yes, the panel is FHD+, but it is still 1080p (vertical resolution – says nothing about horizontal resolution).

    They say in the specs “5.99-inch 2160 x 1080 (FHD+) AMOLED” If I’m not mistaken, and I could be, 2160 is the vertical resolution and 1080 is the horizontal resolution. (assuming portrait orientation here)

    #19107
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    I agree, that panel quality is more important. However, in 2019, there is no reason for compromising on either of them, especially at this price point. The display was just one example.

    Once you get used to working with a higher resolution it is difficult to go back; I picked up my old phone with 1920×1080 screen, and it does feel like the workspace is so limited compared to my LG. For apps with proper scaling this is not an issue, but e.g. I tried to take a screen shot of an e-mail from outlook app on both devices, and the lower screen resolution did indeed result in a much tighter-cut image. Can’t say I liked that. :P

    Sure, I agree, more resolution would be better. But again it should not be the focus of that phone, the keyboard should be. Sure it is expensive compared to “budget-china” phones. And I am using one of these at the moment. But I mean if you compare it to an iphone or a galaxy it is not that expensive. And the pro1 has actually something that makes it special. Sure I would never spend an iphone amount of money on a phone, and 650 is also on the more expensive site for me, but at least you get something.

    I mean if there would be a cheap phone with a keyboard I would maybe go for that, but there is no alternative here.

    But you are right for longer delays. It gets harder and harder to sell the price, if they need another year it will get critical. But a month or two is fine in my opinion.

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    Just browsed through a number of reviews https://www.google.com/search?q=elephone+u+pro+review+display And the one thing they all seem to agree on is that the display is really good… :)

    Have a look at that one:
    https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/6fbf6b/3

    Brightness seems to be a bit low, but because the color and viewing angle are excellent it does not really have a big negative impact on readability.
    All in all it seems like a pretty good choice!

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    #19117
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    I’m also confident the display will be great. I have some phones with a FHD display and they can show fonts that are so tiny I need a loupe to see it yet when magnified the text is legible. At the point of 1080 pixels horizontal resolution on this size it’s really up to the software whether that feels cramped or not, much higher resolution sacrifices battery life and needs more processing power to run things like games.

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    #19119
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    I agree, that panel quality is more important. However, in 2019, there is no reason for compromising on either of them, especially at this price point. The display was just one example.

    Once you get used to working with a higher resolution it is difficult to go back; I picked up my old phone with 1920×1080 screen, and it does feel like the workspace is so limited compared to my LG. For apps with proper scaling this is not an issue, but e.g. I tried to take a screen shot of an e-mail from outlook app on both devices, and the lower screen resolution did indeed result in a much tighter-cut image. Can’t say I liked that. :P

    Sure, I agree, more resolution would be better. But again it should not be the focus of that phone, the keyboard should be. Sure it is expensive compared to “budget-china” phones. And I am using one of these at the moment. But I mean if you compare it to an iphone or a galaxy it is not that expensive. And the pro1 has actually something that makes it special. Sure I would never spend an iphone amount of money on a phone, and 650 is also on the more expensive site for me, but at least you get something.

    I mean if there would be a cheap phone with a keyboard I would maybe go for that, but there is no alternative here.

    But you are right for longer delays. It gets harder and harder to sell the price, if they need another year it will get critical. But a month or two is fine in my opinion.

    Just because the big companies get away with over pricing their devices, doesn’t mean it is right and that it is then okay to do so. I hate this mindset that “but apple does it, so it is okay”. The budget brands really shows how much the big companies rip customers off with their prices. And unlike small brands with low production rates, Apple and Samsung shouldn’t need to take so much profit margin per device; in fact it should be the other way around. But of course, if they can, they will. It is the customers that are stupid for buying into the pricing schemes. I would also exploit that. Obviously.

    My point was: If a budget phone at 400 dollars can have QHD screen, snapdragon 855 and 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage, a phone like Pro1 – spec-wise – should only cost like 200-250 dollars (yes it is old tech). Then we can add in the additional costs of R&D for the keyboard up to 350 dollars and a profit margin up to 400-450 dollars. FInally I can see that it is a niche product and low-production number, increase that to 500 dollars. That would be a much more logical price point imho.

    Again, these calculations are then based on assumptions, but also comparing to what a 400 dollar phone can bring to the table these days.

    Again, because this in a way is a first-gen product, and a niche product, I am accepting the premium cost for this device. But make no mistake that this device is very overpriced for what it is. And please stop using Apple/Samsung overpricing as an excuse.

    But this is not the topic of this thread. Let’s focus now on getting a release date out of the devs.

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    doktor.oswaldo
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    Again, because this in a way is a first-gen product, and a niche product, I am accepting the premium cost for this device. But make no mistake that this device is very overpriced for what it is. And please stop using Apple/Samsung overpricing as an excuse.

    But this is not the topic of this thread. Let’s focus now on getting a release date out of the devs.

    I will end this topic in this thread, but I have to say you may have understood my incorrectly. I do not try to take apples or samsungs prices as excuse. I am the first one to point out the disgusting prices of apple (a grand for a display stand… hahahaha). I am just saying you shouldn’t compare it to the budget phones either.

    There are differences beside the specs. We do not know much about build quality, materials, fair conditions for the people assembling the phone and so on (Not that apple or samsung has these).
    You know there are dacias, peugeots and mercedes with similar specs, and you may need to compare it to peugeot not to dacia and not to mercedes.

    Feel free to answer that comment, I will stop this discussion in this thread now (finally). Sorry but couldn’t live looking like I think the iphone prices are okay

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