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  • #16573
    Zimeon
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    MOD: Split from this thread

    Will the bootloader be unlockable for custom roms and community support?

    #16575
    Keyahnig
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    Will the bootloader be unlockable for custom roms and community support?

    Yes, the bootloader should be unlockable.
    If you scroll down on the start page you can find this:

    OS
    Android 9.0 Pie
    Bootloader unlockable, supports other popular OS’s (Lineage, Sailfish etc)

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    #16603
    alex.ruediger
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    We will also support for 24 months manufacturer warranty (i.e not user caused damages). For non warranty covered damages, will also have repair centre to fix it with cost.

    I’m gonna assume unlocking the bootloader/root will not mess up our warranty for this device, right?

    Also as a question directed at everyone lurking here:
    It’s been a while since I’ve rooted an Android device, but I certainly plan to do so right away on the Pro1. The OS landscape has changed a bit in regards of security and restrictions and there are some apps I want to keep using though I know they go out of their way to check if the device is rooted and block access if it is.
    There seem to be a few different methods to hide root (not just disable temporarily if possible) from certain apps. To what degree is that stuff effective and how hassle free would it be to use it on the Pro1? They seem to depend on what is used to activate root access for an app and some frameworks… I’m really not up-to-date with that stuff to be honest.
    Basically my fear is that while this stuff exist, it may not work with how you’d use root on the Pro1, but I’d be very happy to be corrected on that!

    #16615
    storyworks
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    We will also support for 24 months manufacturer warranty (i.e not user caused damages). For non warranty covered damages, will also have repair centre to fix it with cost.

    I’m gonna assume unlocking the bootloader/root will not mess up our warranty for this device, right?

    Also as a question directed at everyone lurking here:

    It’s been a while since I’ve rooted an Android device, but I certainly plan to do so right away on the Pro1. The OS landscape has changed a bit in regards of security and restrictions and there are some apps I want to keep using though I know they go out of their way to check if the device is rooted and block access if it is.

    There seem to be a few different methods to hide root (not just disable temporarily if possible) from certain apps. To what degree is that stuff effective and how hassle free would it be to use it on the Pro1? They seem to depend on what is used to activate root access for an app and some frameworks… I’m really not up-to-date with that stuff to be honest.

    Basically my fear is that while this stuff exist, it may not work with how you’d use root on the Pro1, but I’d be very happy to be corrected on that!

    My Nexus 6p is rooted and with an alternative ROM. It would be good to know what apps you are talking about. The only app I’ve ever had problems with is Netflix and that is easily solved by installing an older version which I keep the apk for and reinstall whenever I slip up and let an update through. Netflix never objects to the older program being used. I am still using Oreo (Dirty Unicorns ROM version 12), so I have no experience to know if anything is different in Pie. Could be just I happen to use only apps that don’t care, so would be good to know what apps you are concerned about. I’m betting I don’t have them.

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    #16631
    doktor.oswaldo
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    The only app I’ve ever had problems with is Netflix and that is easily solved by installing an older version which I keep the apk for and reinstall whenever I slip up and let an update through. Netflix never objects to the older program being used. /quote]

    You might have to share the apk in a few weeks…

    #16642
    EskeRahn
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    The only app I’ve ever had problems with is Netflix and that is easily solved by installing an older version which I keep the apk for and reinstall whenever I slip up and let an update through. Netflix never objects to the older program being used. /quote]

    You might have to share the apk in a few weeks…

    And please add over here, if there is a specific version that works well with Keyboards/Landscape – and how to get to it.
    https://www.fxtec.com/forums/topic/apps-that-works-great-with-a-real-keyboard-and-in-landscape/

    It is an annoying ‘feature’ in the Android Market, that once something have been messed up with an ‘update’, we not only can not downgrade, we even can’t uninstall and install the working older version. We have to either hope the developer fixes what they messed up or find and side-load it, thus messing with the whole idea of (at the least somewhat) secured apps.

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    #16650
    VaZso
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    It is an annoying ‘feature’ in the Android Market, that once something have been messed up with an ‘update’, we not only can not downgrade, we even can’t uninstall and install the working older version.

    Another annoying thing in Android for me is the feature of displaying only national ratings for apps. I mean only national ratings.
    I would like to read ratings in languages I understand and not only the local ones – especially when the app has relatively few ratings, I see those ratings are good but no Hungarian ratings at all and I have no option to see any ratings in the app as they are filtered out.

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    EskeRahn
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    Another annoying thing in Android for me is the feature of displaying only national ratings for apps. I mean only national ratings.
    I would like to read ratings in languages I understand and not only the local ones – especially when the app has relatively few ratings, I see those ratings are good but no Hungarian ratings at all and I have no option to see any ratings in the app as they are filtered out.

    That is odd, I see both Danish and English reviews. (The names indicating it hardly being Danes writing in English)
    BUT it could be because I always set my devices to real English (or American), as the translations to Danish more often than not are more or less incomprehensible, so you have to try to make a reverse translation to guess what it originally was, to understand it….

    You could try to (temporarily) change the phone language, and see if that gives you more reviews.

    (But indeed a bit odd that it is not a setting like: “I prefer these languages, in prioritised order”)

    #16666
    alex.ruediger
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    My Nexus 6p is rooted and with an alternative ROM. It would be good to know what apps you are talking about.

    In my particular case it’s about a game (Love Live, anime stuff), so it’d be hard to just replace it if something else. I’d like to keep playing it, though.
    The game in question blocks rooted devices, but it appears that hiding root from it works without any further consequences.
    My bank probably wouldn’t like it either, but I haven’t checked since I don’t actually use their app.

    I don’t have Netflix or stuff like that. In general I hope I won’t run into too many issues with this. Like custom roms are great and all, but while there’s still good support I’d love to stay on stock and still get root to get all updates and have a stable tested setup. Might be exaggerating, but while I love tinkering, not having to mess around too much and get a stable phone also has its upsides imo.

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    #16668
    storyworks
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    My Nexus 6p is rooted and with an alternative ROM. It would be good to know what apps you are talking about.

    In my particular case it’s about a game (Love Live, anime stuff), so it’d be hard to just replace it if something else. I’d like to keep playing it, though.

    The game in question blocks rooted devices, but it appears that hiding root from it works without any further consequences.

    My bank probably wouldn’t like it either, but I haven’t checked since I don’t actually use their app.

    I don’t have Netflix or stuff like that. In general I hope I won’t run into too many issues with this. Like custom roms are great and all, but while there’s still good support I’d love to stay on stock and still get root to get all updates and have a stable tested setup. Might be exaggerating, but while I love tinkering, not having to mess around too much and get a stable phone also has its upsides imo.

    I agree, I will probably not go to an alternative rom, unless F(x) Tec can no longer update but a F(x) Tec blessed version of Lineage can (I still get updates on my 0ver 4 year old Samsung Tab S via Lineage). Frankly, if the Pro1’s Android is vanilla enough and they don’t install endless Google bloat as system apps, I might even avoid root for a while. I’m going to have to relearn rooting anyway. I was spoiled by owning several Nexus models and being able to use Nexus Root Toolkit (still works on my Nexus 6p, just have to manually download source files as the toolkit is currently abandonware).

    My bank app merely warns me once (first time you open only) that I might not be secure because I’m rooted and then they leave me alone and the bank app works fine. Lol.

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    david
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    Vudu is another app that doesn’t like rooted phones.

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    storyworks
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    Thanks to whomever split this thread off. Might even deserve (Rooting) it’s own Forum topic after the Pro1 comes out.

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    #16686
    EskeRahn
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    Just a hint to those that like rooting just to kill bloat apps.

    Even on non-rooted devices we DO have a bigger axe to disable stuff, than apps-settings. Slightly hidden but official.
    By the use of USB-cable, a PC, and Google’s ADB.program’s commands we can disable galore (almost) anything. (Yes, including Bixby!)
    I wrote a lot of blah blah with examples related to a Samsung S8- here

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    #16724
    jason
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    This was asked in another thread but I think it may get lost so asking here for more visibility.

    If you root the phone will doing so effect the warranty?

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    #16733
    storyworks
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    This was asked in another thread but I think it may get lost so asking here for more visibility.

    If you root the phone will doing so effect the warranty?

    Obviously it will be good to get an official answer, but I can’t believe they would advertise an unlockable bootloader and Sailfish comparability as features if rooting was going to void the warranty.

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