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  • #11887
    allan.laal
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    EVERY phone I’ve had, I’ve always had a bunch of batteries with me to keep the phone going trough the day/weekend/trip

    you can use a universal cheapo charger from ebay to charge them

    much much better than dangling a battery bank off the phone 24/7

    +1

    its ok if I need to screw a few set screws holding the backplate in place to preserve your IP rating – like, who of us Functionalists dont carry a philips head with them daily :D

    I personally do not care about the IP rating, unless you can take the phone underwater (in salt water)
    I’ve successfully saved a fully submerged non-waterproof phone, so I’ll just do it again :)

    its ok if I need to screw a few set screws holding the backplate in place to preserve your IP rating – like, who of us Functionalists dont carry a philips head with them daily :D

    I personally do not care about the IP rating, unless you can take the phone underwater (in salt water)
    I’ve successfully saved a fully submerged non-waterproof phone, so I’ll just do it again :)

    #11964
    jason
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    its ok if I need to screw a few set screws holding the backplate in place to preserve your IP rating – like, who of us Functionalists dont carry a philips head with them daily :D

    I personally do not care about the IP rating, unless you can take the phone underwater (in salt water)

    Don’t think this phone has an IP rating.

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    #11970
    EskeRahn
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    I see this as in the department for wishes for a future Pro², as I find it extremely unlikely that we will see fundamental hardware changes at this late stage of the development of the Pro¹.

    I too like replaceable batteries, as I find it much easier to carry some spares, than to have a heavy device. And it also allows us to be more careless with the charging pattern (e.g. fast charge away…), as it would be no big deal how long the total lifespan of each battery would be.

    IF the battery is reasonably easy user replaceable on the Pro¹, I would be glad. But as I have not seen anything mentioned on it I doubt it.
    If I understand what they are writing correctly, the keyboard should be replaceable, so if that is correct it does leaves a (slim) change that the battery might be accessible under it, without the need of tearing the device apart.

    Personally I would generally (not limited to keyboard devices) wish for a device with the possibility of using different size battery-backs. So you could have a slimmer device for the dinner jacket, and thicker for more heavy usage. I had three different sizes for my ancient Samsung S300. Nokia also had some models with different sizes. Of course today, we would like a tiny power-backup, so the device could stay on (screen off, perhaps aeroplane mode) for a short while while swapping batteries.

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    #11976
    jason
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    I would love this as well but it is unrealistic at this stage. But if the battery is in the keyboard part like mentioned (very likely) I bet it won’t be a nightmare to disassemble and replace.

    I think the best wish we could have is they publish a guide on battery replacement ;)

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    #12053
    anonim001
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    same here – removable battery +1

    #12067
    spam71
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    Removable battery +1

    #12069
    anonim001
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    I would love this as well but it is unrealistic at this stage. But if the battery is in the keyboard part like mentioned (very likely) I bet it won’t be a nightmare to disassemble and replace.

    I think the best wish we could have is they publish a guide on battery replacement ;)

    Another question is availability of a replacement battery – will they be available on the market? If yes, for how long? I wish all the best to F(x)tec and am very enthusiastic about seeing the devices in retail and having it in my hands, but if the device doesn’t gain a certain level of popularity, it may disappear from the market quite fast – together with any hope for after-market replacements. This concerns not only batteries but also other parts. I sure would not want to see this while having this phone, new battery is a hope to use it for more then just 2-3 years when the battery dies, not to mention a broken display.

    #12213
    jason
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    I would love this as well but it is unrealistic at this stage. But if the battery is in the keyboard part like mentioned (very likely) I bet it won’t be a nightmare to disassemble and replace.

    I think the best wish we could have is they publish a guide on battery replacement ;)

    Another question is availability of a replacement battery – will they be available on the market? If yes, for how long? I wish all the best to F(x)tec and am very enthusiastic about seeing the devices in retail and having it in my hands, but if the device doesn’t gain a certain level of popularity, it may disappear from the market quite fast – together with any hope for after-market replacements. This concerns not only batteries but also other parts. I sure would not want to see this while having this phone, new battery is a hope to use it for more then just 2-3 years when the battery dies, not to mention a broken display.

    I’m seriously hoping the screen and battery are just standard mass-produced parts.

    #12215
    EskeRahn
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    I’m seriously hoping the screen and battery are just standard mass-produced parts.

    Me too, and if so it would be reassuring to have it confirmed. :)
    And if the same screen is used in a more widely spread slab, it might also be easy for us to find a tempered glass protector with a good fit
    A search for similar sized front gives this

    #12408
    georgepatton1945
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    I would assume that you can change almost any battery in a modern phone incase you really need to. At the point you normally change a battery to a new one, the warranty is most certainly gone anyway. So, just use tools to open up your phone. (Though, if you need to use a heat gun to get access to the battery, then I would say it’s too much effort).

    For example, for most iPhones, changing the battery is relatively simple task. It just requires some simple tools. And by the time you need to change the battery, there is probably somebody else who has done it with knowledge on how to properly do it.

    If you really need a spare battery for the day, just buy a power bank and those fancy magnetic USB-C cables and you can almost charge your phone without even thinking.

    #13643
    david
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    I doubt we’ll see it with the first version, but I’ll vote for a removable battery. This would be a very functionally driven feature, like a physical keyboard, like a headphone jack, etc. In general, that is what F(x)tec is doing — bringing back features that other manufacturers have removed. Customers like added functionality. They don’t like it when you remove functionality they prefer using.

    As others have mentioned, if it is too difficult to make a phone with a removable back, being able to remove the keyboard and access the battery that way would be fine too. In other words, being able to use multiple batteries every day would be nice. Being able to *easily* (without needing to follow a complex process of taking the phone apart, piece by piece) replace a battery that won’t hold a charge anymore would be VERY nice. Other than the screen breaking, my main worry about this phone is not being able to use it 2 years later due to a failed battery.

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    #13661
    VaZso
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    For me, if the battery can be replaced relatively easily (like unscrewing some screws) and can be replaced by an available battery, I would be happy as it means the phone would not be something like a “throwaway phone”.

    I’m also hope a more easily replaceable battery in a theoretical Pro2 later and also SIM1 + SIM2 + microSD simultaneous possibility.

    I’m also don’t like the idea of creating too slim notebooks and now also creating notebooks with internal batteries.
    I feel that area may also need a revolution soon (back to usable machines). :S

    #13663
    EskeRahn
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    Other than the screen breaking, my main worry about this phone is not being able to use it 2 years later due to a failed battery.

    I’m with you all the way!
    On your concerns: We know the new screen is one used in several phones. e.g. “Elephone U Pro” (see e.g. this), so that should help on the availability, no matter the destination of F(x)tec. And on the battery. Even if it is not replaceable, I would say that two years of battery life is on the pessimistic side. BUT it depends on how you treat the battery!. I have written several post on this at my tiny blog, start e.g. here that links to more info.

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    #13695
    Waxberry
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    First of all I want to say I am indeed with the removable battery option. But I want also to tell some technical or other constraints:

    – Removable battery, with the same internal space, will have a smaller capacity for sure. This is because of safety, removable batteries has a outer shell / enclosure which is not needed with internal battery. With the shell required, the capacity will probably reduced to around 2500-2600 mAh instead what we have about 3200.
    – Removable battery requires a removable cover, which will complex the structure and make more layers, also result in the increase of thickness.
    – Removable battery needs to have extra moulding for the battery and minimum quantity to support that production, will be a burden for a start-up company.

    Therefore if we take the removable route, it will likely be:

    – 2600 mAh capacity
    – 15mm thick
    – More expensive retail price

    Hence the decision we made for Pro1. :)

    Edit: It is certainly a considerable feature for Pro 2! :)

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    #13702
    EskeRahn
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    Therefore if we take the removable route, it will likely be:

    – 2600 mAh capacity
    – 15mm thick
    – More expensive retail price

    Hence the decision we made for Pro1. :)

    Edit: It is certainly a considerable feature for Pro 2! :)

    It should be something well beyond €100 extra for me NOT to gladly accept the three above, to get removable batteries….
    ESPECIALLY if it is battery used in other devices, so there are likely to be long availability of spare batteries.

    (Here a list of around 100 devices with removable batteries with a capacity in that region)

    e.g. the Nokia 1 Plus

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